[NEW] HuggingChat Omni

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by victor - opened

Introducing: HuggingChat Omni 💫

HuggingChat

HuggingChat returns and it's smarter and faster than ever 🚀

Stop picking models. Start chatting.

Available now for all Hugging Face users. Free users can use their inference credits, PRO users get 20x more credits to use.

🧭 Omni: the new default routing model

When you send a message, Omni analyzes what you need and routes you to the best model for that specific task.
Each route uses the best model for its task. You see which model handled your request while it streams.

📊 Examples

What you ask Route Model
"Help me decide between two job offers. One pays 20% more but requires relocation." decision_support deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528
"Create a React component for an image carousel with lazy loading" code_generation Qwen/Qwen3-Coder-480B-A35B-Instruct
"Write a short mystery story set in a lighthouse during a storm" creative_writing moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Instruct-0905
"Translate this to French: The meeting has been rescheduled to next Tuesday" translation CohereLabs/command-a-translate-08-2025

⚙️ Under the hood

Omni uses a policy-based routing system. Each route has:

  • A clear description of what it handles
  • A primary model best suited for that task
  • Fallback models if the primary is unavailable

The router model analyzes your conversation and picks the matching route. Fast (10 second timeout) and runs on every message. Credits to Katanemo for their routing model: katanemo/Arch-Router-1.5B

✨ What else is new

  • Background generation tracking: Multiple conversations can generate at the same time. Switch between tabs and the app tracks what's still generating. Updates appear automatically when responses finish.
  • Better streaming: Text renders faster and smoother. The app only updates what changed instead of re-rendering everything. Less flickering, especially in long responses with code blocks.
  • Better UX: UX was refined throughout the app. Fewer bugs and rough edges. Preview for code, beautiful streaming and more polish and attention to detail everywhere.
  • Speed optimizations: Sessions stay active longer with automatic token refresh. Response times improved across the board. The whole app feels faster.

🛠️ Run it yourself

HuggingChat is of course still 100% open source. It has never been easier to self-host your own instance.

Quick setup:

git clone https://github.com/huggingface/chat-ui
cd chat-ui
npm install
npm run dev

Only 3 env variables to set to get it working in .env:

  • MONGODB_URL - Your MongoDB connection
  • OPENAI_API_KEY - Your API key
  • OPENAI_BASE_URL - Your endpoint URL

You can also configure your own routes in a JSON file. Each route defines which models to use for specific tasks.

Check out the repo: github.com/huggingface/chat-ui

Hope you are as excited as we are about HuggingChat Omni! Please share your feedback and ideas in this thread 🤗

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Is it possible to import my conversations from the previous version of HuggingChat?

Yeah this dumbing down the system was totally worth nuking everyone's logs and assistants...? The performance improvements are nice if true, but how can you call this a better UX when so many basic features are missing from the last version? Even simple settings are gone, like no options to delete or edit output? There isn't even a way to tweak temperature/repetition minimizing settings, or give different chats different system prompts??

wow, I'm kind of surprised it's back. feels like a tad bit of a downgrade, but I'm assuming that it was a complete rework? hoping that more QoL features will be reintroduced again.

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we're so back

edit:
nevermind, cant delete the conversation branch like before😢

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and it now has a limit. Its been over six hours and i still cant continue the conversation 😭

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Thanks for getting this running

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❌ Can't use assistants
❌ Can't generate images
❌ Can't edit conversations
❌ Can't search the web
❌ Can't change temperature
❌ Can't import your old conversations
✅ You now have to pay to use it 😂

tried it out a lot, seems pretty much good as new. new UI looks different for sure. works well, haven't had it crash at all and haven't seen any of the weird rendering bugs that were so prevalent in the old version. considering that there's a lot missing, I think it's probably a thing where they're going to reintroduce all of the old stuff again over time. the old version took almost two years (23 months if I recall) to become a sorta-final product.

Thanks for your feedback everyone <3

Is it possible to import my conversations from the previous version of HuggingChat?

Not really but we can work on it if a lot of people want it.

Can't edit conversations

Mhhh you can (or I'm missing something)

Can't change temperature
Can't search the web
Can't generate images

We plan to add this for the rest I'm not sure yet but Assistants may come back (and they will be better)

✅ You now have to pay to use it 😂

There's a free tier. It's way faster and stable now also PRO Subscription is a very nice deal https://huggingface.co/pro. Also paid requests are very cheap for most models. Example from my https://huggingface.co/settings/inference-providers/overview: 1840 requests with Qwen/Qwen3-235B-A22B-Instruct-2507= .65$

tried it out a lot, seems pretty much good as new. new UI looks different for sure. works well, haven't had it crash at all and haven't seen any of the weird rendering bugs that were so prevalent in the old version.

Thanks that's motivating and yes we'll make it awesome with faster iteration rate than the 1st version!

Thanks for your feedback everyone <3

Is it possible to import my conversations from the previous version of HuggingChat?

Not really but we can work on it if a lot of people want it.

Can't edit conversations

Mhhh you can (or I'm missing something)

Can't change temperature
Can't search the web
Can't generate images

We plan to add this for the rest I'm not sure yet but Assistants may come back (and they will be better)

✅ You now have to pay to use it 😂

There's a free tier. It's way faster and stable now also PRO Subscription is a very nice deal https://huggingface.co/pro. Also paid requests are very cheap for most models. Example from my https://huggingface.co/settings/inference-providers/overview: 1840 requests with Qwen/Qwen3-235B-A22B-Instruct-2507= .65$

tried it out a lot, seems pretty much good as new. new UI looks different for sure. works well, haven't had it crash at all and haven't seen any of the weird rendering bugs that were so prevalent in the old version.

Thanks that's motivating and yes we'll make it awesome with faster iteration rate than the 1st version!

what about the missing feature that involves in deleting a branch of the conversation? I used that very often to make things tidy

Anyone know which model is the best for uncensored stuff, one of the Cohere variants or something else?

@erictheechidna I can see CohereLabs's models there, I am not sure that it's the best for uncensored stuff. Why do you need a model from the team then? I downloaded and tried, it said: I'm sorry, but I can't assist with that kind of explicit content...

Can't edit conversations

Mhhh you can (or I'm missing something)

Cool, so how do you edit the output text?

It's a shameful imitation of the old chat, and now you have to pay for it. It's clear why they closed the previous one — the free trial ended and now you have to pay.

Pretty happy with Omni for the limited time I've spent with it so far.

I have some questions before I get too invested:

  1. Has the privacy policy changed? I don't see the explicit mention of conversations never being shared with the model owners. Is HuggingChat Omni still private?
  2. Is there a way to see how much you can use HuggingChat before you have to pay for it? Does it refresh hourly, daily, or what? There absolutely must be a way to use this indefinitely for free or it's not worth using, since I'm never going to be a paid user.
  3. Is the Omni routing model also private?

Thank you

So when the free trial ends, that's it? You can't use it anymore?

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In the earlier version of HuggingChat, there was a visible toggle to opt out of data sharing and model training so that user conversations weren’t used for model improvement, is that toggle switch still there?

HuggingChat org

It's clear why they closed the previous one — the free trial ended and now you have to pay.

So when the free trial ends, that's it? You can't use it anymore?

I get your concerns about free usage (for now you need to be a PRO user to utilize the pay-as-you-go feature, but it should be quite cheap for a normal usage). We’re open to raising the limit. But before we do we need to find the right balance: the previous version was hammered by abuse that nearly broke the service. We’re committed to keeping the doors open for everyone, but we need a guardrail that keeps the lights on.

Is there a way to see how much you can use HuggingChat before you have to pay for it?

Yes there's a way here: https://huggingface.co/settings/billing (in the inference usage section)

In the earlier version of HuggingChat, there was a visible toggle to opt out of data sharing and model training so that user conversations weren’t used for model improvement, is that toggle switch still there?

Has the privacy policy changed? I don't see the explicit mention of conversations never being shared with the model owners. Is HuggingChat Omni still private?

Regarding privacy, now HuggingChat is using external providers (HF Inference Providers) - so the privacy will depend on which providers you are using, the good news is that you can choose which ones you want to use be toggling them in your Inference Settings.

HuggingChat org

Cool, so how do you edit the output text?

Are you sure this was possible (btw you can from the inference playground)

I think many features demanded here might be introduced by HF later, so I summarise them for HF (probably victor?):

  • Import previous chats (those we had before the sudden shutdown)
  • Assistants (importation, creation, and sharing)
  • Tools from community
  • Image, Web search, and temperature tweaking

The followings are from me, but I guess folks will have similar thoughts

  • More transparent pricing
    I've read the API provider & model page, but some are missing (denoted only with - symbol, including HF SmolLM, Cohere, and Zai)
    I wonder whether that means free, or just price-unavailable
    Otherwise we may run out of our free quotas easily if we're misled
    edited I guess it's price unavailable since I tried command a from Cohere, while I've been charged :

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  • Custom routing logic, e.g.
    Free first, or ranked by pricing
    I personally wanted this :)
    or ranked by model type, popularity, date of release, etc.
  • It will be good if we can set certain providers for specific models, e.g. firework for DeepSeek V3, Together for QWQ, or Groq for Kimi K2
  • Can we bring our own API keys other than your provider partners' ones?
    e.g. OpenRouter or LLM gateway
  • Set our preferred model as default, or give it a shortcut

And I have a personal opinion about abuse-prevention: setting a rational rate limit and reset it after a certain period, just like OpenAI or Anthropic did.
For heavy users, maybe HF pro or other subscription plans can help.

Thanks for your reading.
I'm here because I love open source and privacy so much, while HuggingChat is the most ideal choice.

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And I have a personal opinion about abuse-prevention: setting a rational rate limit and reset it after a certain period, just like OpenAI or Anthropic did.
For heavy users, maybe HF pro or other subscription plans can help.

Yeah, I totally agree, having a reasonable rate limit that resets periodically is way better than having one hard cap on overall usage that forces you to upgrade to pro once you hit it.

Great job on killing something that was once amazing from what i had heard.

We’re open to raising the limit. But before we do we need to find the right balance: the previous version was hammered by abuse that nearly broke the service. We’re committed to keeping the doors open for everyone, but we need a guardrail that keeps the lights on.

There's a pretty obvious solution: Daily caps. Let us send 75-100 messages a day. You can compare it to Grok, which has a 2-hour limit of 20 messages, which works out to 240 messages a day. 100 would be low but acceptable for most users.

Yes there's a way here: https://huggingface.co/settings/billing (in the inference usage section)

Yeah, this is terrible. I'm already almost done and if there's no increase I just won't come back.

Regarding privacy, now HuggingChat is using external providers (HF Inference Providers) - so the privacy will depend on which providers you are using, the good news is that you can choose which ones you want to use be toggling them in your Inference Settings.

We also need a way to block this completely. Having it be determined by the model providers, in a system that routes you to a provider it chooses without you having the ability to opt-out, is unacceptable.

As it is, this is so much worse than the old Hugging Chat that it's not worth using in its current state. I'll check back to see if/when an increased recurring cap and better privacy measures are implemented.

HuggingChat org

We also need a way to block this completely. Having it be determined by the model providers, in a system that routes you to a provider it chooses without you having the ability to opt-out, is unacceptable.

You can block completely the providers you don't want from your Inference Settings.

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It’s actually sad that most open-source model providers collect or share your data for training without offering an opt-out option, while closed-source companies like OpenAI and Anthropic give users that control.

I remember using the old Hugging chat a lot. With this one I ran out of credits in seconds :(
Back to openrouter I suppose.

I'm curious to know what settings they are using for the models. On the old Huggingchat you used to be able to see the temperature etc for the model you were using.

Hay welcome back. It's fine if you want to add a paid feature, and it's also fine if you want to make it a totally paid/ free tier (basically a bait for paid services), but that won't be hugging chat. Hugging chat was something else. It was like charity work. It gave us hope that not all AI providers seek money, and some can give you free service. It was perfect, every bit of it was. It had so many features, it had a strong privacy-friendly system, secure. It's fine if you want to make something like other AI competitors (OpenAI and others), it's totally fine. Your product, your rules, who am I to say anything? But I just want to thank you for the last 2 years. You had made my life very easy. Because of the hugging chat, I was able to use AI without spending money. It was the freedom and openness of open source that we needed. It's fine now you want to build something else. Maybe you will now get customers who are dedicated and willing to spend money. I am no longer a customer as I am not willing to spend any money on my AI, as I have other things to spend money on. Again, thanks for the last 2 years. I will always remember there was a Great Open-source AI host called Huggingchat. Cheers

So when the free trial ends, that's it? You can't use it anymore?

seems like it. it's been over a day now since i've reached my limit, i still cant chat

Please keep the free tier as interesting as possible to be able to extensively test the open models. Especially for new models and those which can not be run easily on mid to low consumer hardware.
Consider introducing a setting which allows to fine-tune omni routing from now hardcoded "best underlying model" to more options I'm sure also paying Pro users are interested in like:

  • best performance per inference cost/credit
  • fastest performance in the top tier models

Also gradually saving preferences of users (models output) would be an interesting intermediate comparing to hard select a model vs. HF omni routing preferences.

I'm just wondering are the free limit uses a one time thing or do they refresh daily?

And if they are a daily thing will we able to just pick up where our story left off or do we need to start a new chat every time?

With no way to refill for free, that'll just incentivise throwaway accounts. Prevent abuse by limiting out the expensive to run models and features, queue the inputs on a lower priority, and rate limit heavy users.

Also, that settings ui not showing fractions of a cent hurts the precision a lot.

i set up IP READ API KEY
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but it still reads "" Amy help is welcome...

waited a handful of days, seems like the free tier does not, in fact, reset. at least not daily. if it were to reset daily (or, preferably, have a system similar to the old Huggingchat) that would be a huge improvement. maybe an advertisement banner or something to offset the costs? I'm not sure, I'm not super knowledgeable on this, but being able to run through what I assume is a montly limit in an afternoon is disappointing.

I'm a little disappointed that the UI doesn't have the same features that the old UI did, such as the ability to delete branches. I thought those would have remained.

Pro... considering it. After the old hugging chat closed, I moved to Mistral on the €15/m ($17 USD). So being able to get back what I've missed for $9 seems nice.

I get your concerns about free usage (for now you need to be a PRO user to utilize the pay-as-you-go feature, but it should be quite cheap for a normal usage). We’re open to raising the limit. But before we do we need to find the right balance: the previous version was hammered by abuse that nearly broke the service. We’re committed to keeping the doors open for everyone, but we need a guardrail that keeps the lights on.

Trust me when I say I get this. I became a bit of a heavy user on the old version. So, here's an idea. As said before, I've (currently) moved to Mistral and their system works like this:

  • Free tier: daily limit of X number of messages (example: 100).
  • Pro tier: limit is now every 3 hours. Number of messages has increased (example: 1000).

It would be really, really nice if you could do that here. This should at least give guard rails on free users but really benefit/reward those who subscribe. I do also prefer subscription over PAYG too.


Cool, so how do you edit the output text?

Are you sure this was possible

I do not recall this being possible. You could delete responses though. Which I feel is a key feature that needs to come back.

Oh, and seeing as how this has been relaunched - could all of the old discussions be closed now?

I'm a little disappointed that the UI doesn't have the same features that the old UI did, such as the ability to delete branches. I thought those would have remained.

Pro... considering it. After the old hugging chat closed, I moved to Mistral on the €15/m ($17 USD). So being able to get back what I've missed for $9 seems nice.

I get your concerns about free usage (for now you need to be a PRO user to utilize the pay-as-you-go feature, but it should be quite cheap for a normal usage). We’re open to raising the limit. But before we do we need to find the right balance: the previous version was hammered by abuse that nearly broke the service. We’re committed to keeping the doors open for everyone, but we need a guardrail that keeps the lights on.

Trust me when I say I get this. I became a bit of a heavy user on the old version. So, here's an idea. As said before, I've (currently) moved to Mistral and their system works like this:

  • Free tier: daily limit of X number of messages (example: 100).
  • Pro tier: limit is now every 3 hours. Number of messages has increased (example: 1000).

It would be really, really nice if you could do that here. This should at least give guard rails on free users but really benefit/reward those who subscribe. I do also prefer subscription over PAYG too.


Cool, so how do you edit the output text?

Are you sure this was possible

I do not recall this being possible. You could delete responses though. Which I feel is a key feature that needs to come back.

the pro version is worth it

sooo do the free tier reset or its a bait and switch ?

the pro version is worth it

I've been thinking of getting it but like how does it actually work because I won't lie I don't 100% understand what it was saying I would be paying for? especially when I saw something that said you would have to pay more if you went over a limit and honestly that scared the hell out of me.

I know this probably won't happen but can we just have a subscription tier that's just for huggingChat? because I was looking at it again and maybe it's just me but I don't need or even want almost all of the features you would be paying the £9 a month for and don't get me wrong I'm fine paying that much as it's a lot less than other AI generators cost at their lowist tier and also because It's really easy to use, I love the level of descriptive and detailed storytelling it produces and best of all it doesn't give me a word count limit for what I can write for my prompt... because I didn't think my prompt I use a lot was that long until I tried to use another AI generator and it's almost 20,000 words long. 😅

HuggingChat org

seems like it. it's been over a day now since i've reached my limit, i still cant chat

Please consider upgrading to PRO!

lol looks like it dont reset

seems like it. it's been over a day now since i've reached my limit, i still cant chat

Please consider upgrading to PRO!

...what?

seems like it. it's been over a day now since i've reached my limit, i still cant chat

Please consider upgrading to PRO!

Wow... HuggingChat is dead folks

i wouldn't mind if they refreshed with a decent bit of usage limit but if its a one time trial thing then its dead folks pack it up

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Just LET ME reuploaded what was LOST and archived

it deletes my messages when it gives errors!!!!

Wow. Im no longer able to use this for free.

And there is officially no other chat bots that are unlimited out there.

I used to use the CoHere chatbot model a lot when it was free to use. :(

So I posted this on Reddit but I thought I would share it here too in case anyone is thinking of getting the subscription.

I paid for it because I thought fuck it I'll just get it and see so here is what I found out.

For the £2 inference you get about 205 requests you can make on HuggingChat and the cost for each is 1p which isn't bad at all and if you're not someone like me who has the impulse control of a fruit fly and way too much free time then's good for an ADHD brain you could very easily last maybe not the whole month but close before reaching that limit.

Here's what I found about the models I tried out well the ones which would work for me as my stories are lightish NSFW ones because my characters are adults in a modern fantasy world so stuff may happen and if it does I don't want to get told off anyway. lol

The models I tried were 8 of them however only about 5 of them worked for what I wanted and the responses were very fast, the AI was really good at understanding the information I had given and even remembering information from a lot of requests ago which is really good if you're using it for a story.

For example: the model deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.1-Terminus I was using before I reached my £2 limit I had requested 74 responses in one chat and it was still remembering information from the very first response.

As for bugs or weird text as far as I could tell there was only really a handful of times anything happened for me and that was a few rare times there would be tiny little bits of text that looked like a foreign language if that makes sense and the other was just if a model could only do so many requests before it started having trouble.

Now for going over your limit I did it by 1p without realizing as there is no pop up or anything to say hey you're done but I won't have to pay for that until my subscription is renewed on november 22 meaning I could if I wanted to keep using HuggingChat only the cost won't be paid for a month which honestly I'm not a big fan of the fact that you can keep using it past the point your £2 runs out becuase even if you don't have to pay if it right now you do eventually.

Also I tried the Zero GPU but honestly someone else would have to tell you if it's any good because it's mostly AI for images, videos you know that kind of thing which I very rarely use and if I do it's just to see what clothes may look like if I'm playing an interactive novel and yes there were AI text generators but a lot of them just didn't work or could only handle very small prompts.

So yeah overall even if you're paying for the £9 subscription just to use HuggingChat I do still think it's worth it because as I said the AI's a hell lot better than it used to be and the bugs are pretty much not there anymore.

Ps.

With that being said I do think there should be a subscription that is just for HuggingChat because a lot of the features you are paying for if you're like me don't need or even want.

And another thing while I can understand why it only refreshes monthly not daily because there is no why you can use it all in one day, I do think it should refresh once a week or halfway through the month.

I'm kinda dumb, but where are my chats? Are they like gone? I didn't see a option to export it while HC was down.

Import please? that's the only reason why I still return to this...

Please add back the message deletion feature, sometimes it feels gets too much messages and gets lost easily

seems like it. it's been over a day now since i've reached my limit, i still cant chat

Please consider upgrading to PRO!

no thanks, i'll stick with Shapes Inc for now

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Making advertising for another ai on the official hugging chat forum is kinda dirty if you ask me

I'm kinda dumb, but where are my chats? Are they like gone? I didn't see a option to export it while HC was down.

Yes, your chats are gone. There was an option to export for a couple weeks after chat went down, then they were deleted.

Thanks for your feedback everyone <3

Is it possible to import my conversations from the previous version of HuggingChat?

Not really but we can work on it if a lot of people want it.

Can't edit conversations

Mhhh you can (or I'm missing something)

Can't change temperature
Can't search the web
Can't generate images

We plan to add this for the rest I'm not sure yet but Assistants may come back (and they will be better)

✅ You now have to pay to use it 😂

There's a free tier. It's way faster and stable now also PRO Subscription is a very nice deal https://huggingface.co/pro. Also paid requests are very cheap for most models. Example from my https://huggingface.co/settings/inference-providers/overview: 1840 requests with Qwen/Qwen3-235B-A22B-Instruct-2507= .65$

tried it out a lot, seems pretty much good as new. new UI looks different for sure. works well, haven't had it crash at all and haven't seen any of the weird rendering bugs that were so prevalent in the old version.

Thanks that's motivating and yes we'll make it awesome with faster iteration rate than the 1st version!

Imagine using it like the old HuggingChat. You never can. You do have to pay to use it now becasuse it is no longer unlimited like it used to be. For unlimited messages, this is not a good chat interface. I thought this was about open-source freedom, not the money.

The "CohereLabs-AyaExpanse" model seems to work well for my purposes, given i just porked Calamity Coyote, with no "nudging" or other tricks needed. Still doesn't solve the problem of limited credits per months, and whatever, but at least it's something, for now. Otherwise there's venice.ai which is completely uncensored, but also much lower quality.

I remembered the old HC almost 1-2 years ago being my sole platform for AI chatting. I ditched ChatGPT for this. It is that good. Sure, the models back then (llama, cohere 2024) are far from perfect compared to the variety of options to choose (kimi, qwen, deepseek, mistral, Claude, etc.)

As an unknown user commented a month ago when the new HC launched:
"> ❌ Can't use assistants

❌ Can't generate images
❌ Can't edit conversations
❌ Can't search the web
❌ Can't change temperature
❌ Can't import your old conversations
✅ You now have to pay to use it 😂"

It's very frustrating to see a new version of HuggingChat, which I expected to be far more better than the old version, being so lackluster in terms of features.

I understand that hosting 120 models online while doing it completely free is not the most economical solution, having a free trial that doesn't tell you when to end (mine literally stops 50 messages in) is extremely frustrating.

Hugging Face, please find a way to bring back all these features that made HuggingChat how it was, and remove the subscription. Many people are disappointed at the current state of HuggingChat, and I was devastated when I realised this happened.

Just bought HuggingFace PRO.

The page did not update to give me access to PRO features.

Additionally, HuggingChat is still locking me out because the free tier limit has not been removed.

The payment was not recorded on the billing history.

I tried to find a subscriptions page but there was no way for more to view my subscriptions, let alone trying to cancel it.

It's been a few hours, and nothing changed.

And later I found out: So on top of the PRO subscription plan, I have to pay extra after I used up all the "20x extra free messages" for every single model?

I thought you guys are one of the only few companies that purses the goal of opens source and free AI chat assistant with AI service with HuggingChat's launch 2 years ago. Then, it was suddenly shut down because the creator of the Chat left the company. Then 4 months later, it returned with lackluster features, and now a paywall????

Make Hugging Chat great again! As it is right now it is just good.

Why do we even HAVE 120 models, especially if its not free?

Listen to us, Victor. Change it back.

Ehh Victor, Victor...
Its so sad that money dominates everywhere, nothing can help greediness, not AI, only intelligence and moral can change us (sadly we cannot see this often)...

Is it only me, or Hugging Chat is not working? When I try to use it, it says the omnia don't exist, and if I try to use other ones, it doesn't work anyway.

HuggingChat org

Listen to us, Victor. Change it back.

I will see what I can do the problem is really spammers right now :/

Is it only me, or Hugging Chat is not working? When I try to use it, it says the omnia don't exist, and if I try to use other ones, it doesn't work anyway.

Inference was broken for 1 hour but it should be back now (sorry about it)

Listen to us, Victor. Change it back.

I will see what I can do the problem is really spammers right now :/

Is it only me, or Hugging Chat is not working? When I try to use it, it says the omnia don't exist, and if I try to use other ones, it doesn't work anyway.

Inference was broken for 1 hour but it should be back now (sorry about it)

I want to import what was lost as well...
Also why 120 providers if it'll put a strain on everything? Why not 30-55?

Listen to us, Victor. Change it back.

I will see what I can do the problem is really spammers right now :/

Is it only me, or Hugging Chat is not working? When I try to use it, it says the omnia don't exist, and if I try to use other ones, it doesn't work anyway.

Inference was broken for 1 hour but it should be back now (sorry about it)

Thank you 🙏

Not a good first impression (default settings):

  • it does not fetch the code from which the chat is started, this should be automatic
  • knowledge cutoff seems to be in 2024, which makes it kind of useless overall

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@crcdng turn this ON and tell me (and yes it should probably be on by default)

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@crcdng turn this ON and tell me (and yes it should probably be on by default)

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indeed, both settings were off initially. I got a different answer now, not sure about the quality of the code though. I'll have to check.

@crcdng turn this ON and tell me (and yes it should probably be on by default)

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Wow, a tool that is actually free. 🙄

HuggingChat in 2024: The age of open-source agents is among us. No restrictions, nothing can hold us back.
HuggingChat in 2025-2026: There is usage rates and now you have to PAY to use FREE tools and models.

HuggingChat in 2024: The age of open-source agents is among us. No restrictions, nothing can hold us back.
HuggingChat in 2025-2026: There is usage rates and now you have to PAY to use FREE tools and models.

Did you just say "Among Us"?

HuggingChat in 2024: The age of open-source agents is among us. No restrictions, nothing can hold us back.
HuggingChat in 2025-2026: There is usage rates and now you have to PAY to use FREE tools and models.

Did you just say "Among Us"?

Dead meme.

HuggingChat in 2024: The age of open-source agents is among us. No restrictions, nothing can hold us back.
HuggingChat in 2025-2026: There is usage rates and now you have to PAY to use FREE tools and models.

Did you just say "Among Us"?

Dead meme.

Shh. Just be quit. It will be better for all of us.

HuggingChat in 2024: The age of open-source agents is among us. No restrictions, nothing can hold us back.
HuggingChat in 2025-2026: There is usage rates and now you have to PAY to use FREE tools and models.

Did you just say "Among Us"?

Dead meme.

Shh. Just be quit. It will be better for all of us.

Meme is still dead...

HuggingChat in 2024: The age of open-source agents is among us. No restrictions, nothing can hold us back.
HuggingChat in 2025-2026: There is usage rates and now you have to PAY to use FREE tools and models.

Did you just say "Among Us"?

Dead meme.

Shh. Just be quit. It will be better for all of us.

Meme is still dead...

Cry about it you sussy baka

Screenshot 2025-12-18 at 05-14-39 Database trigger error after clone

this kind of issue keep happening model keep thinking do not print anything, model end print midway. please can anyone help

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this kind of issue keep happening model keep thinking do not print anything, model end print midway. please can anyone help

can you share the conv? if you click on the the text in should expand 👀

is Hugging chat code open source or ?

I am a pro subscriber but still why i am getting this error ?? @victor please can you help

Screenshot 2025-12-22 at 14-05-08 Hi

@acharyaaditya26

You probably worked this out by now but just in case it's because of the free PRO trial subscription that's going off right now HuggingChat think that anyone who has it is a free user once you have gone over the free £2 and the only way to get it working again is to buy credits.

At last this is what I was told on how it get it working again when I emailed billing@huggingface.co after this happened to me.

@acharyaaditya26

You probably worked this out by now but just in case it's because of the free PRO trial subscription that's going off right now HuggingChat think that anyone who has it is a free user once you have gone over the free £2 and the only way to get it working again is to buy credits.

At last this is what I was told on how it get it working again when I emailed billing@huggingface.co after this happened to me.

But they should say that right. i mean this error message is kinda misleading.

@acharyaaditya26

You probably worked this out by now but just in case it's because of the free PRO trial subscription that's going off right now HuggingChat think that anyone who has it is a free user once you have gone over the free £2 and the only way to get it working again is to buy credits.

At last this is what I was told on how it get it working again when I emailed billing@huggingface.co after this happened to me.

My credits are also not exhausted

@acharyaaditya26

Your best bet is to take a screenshot of your billing page to show that your £2 free credits haven't been exhausted as well as a screenshot of the update message then email them to billing@huggingface.co along with any other information and your username so they can fix it from their end.

Plus, I also agree that this whole thing is misleading and all kinds of dodgy.

I am a pro subscriber but still why i am getting this error ?? @victor please can you help

Screenshot 2025-12-22 at 14-05-08 Hi

@julien-c can you help us out?? I am pro subscriber and also my credits are not exhausted

I'm not a subscriber and haven't trialed or anything but am getting that message as well.

Is it an error or do you now need to subscribe to continue chatting?

I'm not a subscriber and haven't trialed or anything but am getting that message as well.

Is it an error or do you now need to subscribe to continue chatting?

Its sadly paywalled nonsense.

Ugh. Thanks for the info.

I tried paying using my visa card and it deducted $10 dollars and did not give me a pro subscription. It then went ahead to tell me that Hugging Face does not accept payments from prepaid users. But they haven't returned my money back to my card. Anyone experienced this issue too?

Is there a way to get credits by doing some quick form of manual work? Like, solving captcha or whatever? Like, seriously, so many of these businesses would be so much more convenient if we had an option to just watch ads for a bit or solve a few things and then continue using it. (Obviously it's hell to implement on dev side, and not every user would be considered valuable for adspace buyers, but still, I don't even have a way to pay for the service if I wanted to. Don't have a fitting payment system in my country. I wish I could just do some online work for 5 minutes and get these damn $0.10)

you make huggingchat become the opposite of chatgpt. in chatgpt, basically everything is free with simple hourly limits. all tools are free. on huggingchat, only the buggy tools are free. it's like a coin toss for a tool to work, models get confused, and subscriptions break.
it's also just ironic how a commercial closed-source ai company made a free chatbot, but a community hub where most things are open-source made a subscription chatbot.

  • Permanent cap on free tier
  • Credit card only
  • doesn't support local bank

Welp, move along we are. HuggingChat is dead.

Congratulations on backstabbing everyone for literally no reason. Hope it was worth it. Also, uploading the downloaded archived chats? When do we get to do that?

I just wanted to use the chat like before, even if the cap was daily I would have understood.
Please don't pay for this, its really not worth it.

The last time I saw something this dead was the sonic-community in the meta-era from sonic lost world til sonic forces. But I still like the new version of hugging chat.

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Wait we are migrating the billing system, we should be able to do cool things after it :)

There has not been a new release update since June 2025 (v0.9.5).
With the previous main contributor Nathan Sarrazin (nsarrazin) gone, will we see chat ui continually updated from now on?
Victor Mustar, are you the main contributor now?

I use chat ui hosted locally. Will we see local MCP implemented/fixed? e.g.
https://github.com/huggingface/chat-ui/discussions/2027

Hopefully chat-ui will be continually upgraded and supported by hugging-face. Is that the case?

thanks!

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Wait we are migrating the billing system, we should be able to do cool things after it :)

Explain.

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edited Jan 21

There has not been a new release update since June 2025 (v0.9.5)

I just made a new release

Victor Mustar, are you the main contributor now?

For now yes.

Is there any sort of ETA on when we can upload our old chats? Alternatively, is there any way I can read the chats I downloaded from the pre-Omni HuggingChat?

Just use venice.ai , it will let you do pretty much anything, with higher quality than any of the current models available here, and 10 free prompts a day. Only downside is no branching whatsoever (which means alternate versions are deleted when you retry or edit a prompt), but you'll have to learn to work around that.

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Just use venice.ai , it will let you do pretty much anything, with higher quality than any of the current models available here, and 10 free prompts a day. Only downside is no branching whatsoever (which means alternate versions are deleted when you retry or edit a prompt), but you'll have to learn to work around that.

Nice but sending this in the official forum is kinda insulting for the creators

Just use venice.ai , it will let you do pretty much anything, with higher quality than any of the current models available here, and 10 free prompts a day. Only downside is no branching whatsoever (which means alternate versions are deleted when you retry or edit a prompt), but you'll have to learn to work around that.

Nice but sending this in the official forum is kinda insulting for the creators

Haven't they insulted us?

Just use venice.ai , it will let you do pretty much anything, with higher quality than any of the current models available here, and 10 free prompts a day. Only downside is no branching whatsoever (which means alternate versions are deleted when you retry or edit a prompt), but you'll have to learn to work around that.

Nice but sending this in the official forum is kinda insulting for the creators

Haven't they insulted us?

Do you mean by making everything not free. I think you can say so.

@victor i must be missing something, but why does thr models list in chat-ui does not sync with inference providers settings

meaning that if i set publicai as only provider, i am expecting to have under chat-ui models only the ones available for publicai

what i have is the full list, that i have to either know before hand or pick one that i believe its under that provider, to send a message and find out that i cant ....

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meaning that if i set publicai as only provider, i am expecting to have under chat-ui models only the ones available for publicai

even if other providers are visible it should always do inference onpublicai, how you seen the new per-model providers settings on huggingchat btw (should make things simpler)

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So are we just gonna have to wait until the beginning of each month to use this again if not paying, or can we have SOME models for free and the rest be paid?

meaning that if i set publicai as only provider, i am expecting to have under chat-ui models only the ones available for publicai

even if other providers are visible it should always do inference onpublicai, how you seen the new per-model providers settings on huggingchat btw (should make things simpler)

hmm okay so real use case , i set the providers in settings to only publicai
i go to chatui models, where models from ALL providers are listed
theres 2 options to tackle this

i have this tab open , https://huggingface.co/models?pipeline_tag=text-generation&inference_provider=publicai&sort=downloads , and check which model i can choose
or i try and error between having this pop up
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and a successful hit ...
neither look pleasant or a good experience....

option 3 would be to have the list of models under chatui reflect models from ONLY providers set up in settings...

dont know how hasn't some1 notice this .. it seems a bug
not sure whats the point of being able to filter providers in settings if the flow needs to be the one mentioned above..

A couple questions that I may have missed the answers to:

  1. What determines the listing order of the models? It would be nice to see what models are newest without checking their individual pages.

  2. Is there a way to disable reasoning on models? I knew a few of them allow things like /nothinking in the prompt, but I assume most have no way to turn it off.

I keep getting this thing especially over the last few days where a request just won't work for one reason or another however when I try to stop the request it doesn't work and when I can finally get it to stop it gives me an empty chat box that wouldn't be a problem except there's no option to try again or go back to past tries.

Another thing for the last week or so around 12 pm to 6 pm in the UK models will start having trouble working properly meaning I'll see odd text, it cuts off in the middle of writing and it either does not pay attention to half the information given or AI reads it very badly you end up with a hot mess.

And here's the thing I don't mind paying to use HuggingChat... I really don't but I do mind when it's starting to have the same problems as the old one did.

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edited Feb 13

What determines the listing order of the models? It would be nice to see what models are newest without checking their individual pages.

Most trending models on the hub should appear first

Is there a way to disable reasoning on models? I knew a few of them allow things like /nothinking in the prompt, but I assume most have no way to turn it off.

the problem is there's no unified API and providers are not consistant on this.

And here's the thing I don't mind paying to use HuggingChat... I really don't but I do mind when it's starting to have the same problems as the old one did.

@MadderHatterMax it works well for me right now, can you share a concrete example?

@victor

What kind of concrete example?

if you mean the chat I can't anymore as I deleted it because it kept trying to do the request no matter how many times I tried to stop it and each time it was costing me credits.

While the venice.ai suggestion isn't useless, it doesn't seem to address the issue I previously brought up: Is there any way that I can read the chats I downloaded from HuggingChat right before the pre-Omni version shut down? Regardless of whether or not it uses HuggingChat itself.

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if you mean the chat I can't anymore as I deleted it because it kept trying to do the request no matter how many times I tried to stop it and each time it was costing me credits.

abort should work better now tell me it's the case for your too

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What determines the listing order of the models? It would be nice to see what models are newest without checking their individual pages.

Most trending models on the hub should appear first

shouldn't that list be filtered based on chosen providers from settings?
it seems rather intuitive to be ...

for those seeking a workaround to this rather counter-intuitive ui ...
pick a specific provider for the models available of the chosen providers, that way the provider's logo will appear in the list, making the selection more easy ...
ending with something like this
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just answer me this one question, could you add a /chat/legacy page?

We gonna get any answers to our questions, orrr?

Will there be a way to store most used models in some kind of favorites area, and create more than one instance of them with different system prompts for different tasks?

Hi, I'm an active Hugging Chat user and I originally subscribed mainly to use this product because when it launched I really liked the workflow that the models have for formulating their responses through the chat's design, in the form of a sequential hybrid flow between chat and agent. However, I now feel it's falling behind on basic features like the option to organize chats into folders that contain the context of an entire project. There are a few ideas that I believe, once implemented, would make this chat interface one of the best:

Chat organization into projects or folders
Automatic organization mode (voluntary only) with suggestions that users can accept or reject, powered by vector similarity based on each chat's content. Plus, a separate graphical visualization mode like Obsidian offers.

More ambitious approaches that would likely be delegated to other organizations to maintain their model development merits and business model options:

Optional integration with Cline (HF's own CLI) with security sandbox

Ability to integrate local model usage into the chat with the HF inference ecosystem like js transformer and webgpu

Integration with smol agents in local or remote mode

An OpenRouter-style payment management ecosystem and credit administration so that organizations developing models and offering hosting can have a revenue source, making the open model a commercially solid system.

Why is it telling me a model doesn't not available anymore but I can still see it and pick it in the all models available page?

Also if a model has been removed is there any way of picking a new one without having to start a whole new chat?

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Why is it telling me a model doesn't not available anymore but I can still see it and pick it in the all models available page?

example? @MadderHatterMax

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I wasn't impressed at all it was a better the Omni was working way better I had a cold wonderful experience not cold total complete a completely different experience it was rich yeah I got cut off occasionally but it was wonderful and then I got premium and it was not 20 times it was trash and instantly started reformatting and saying I can't be this personality type anymore I can't do this is not me they're just completely destroyed it so all the work I do before that me and yeah I was working with you and it's just fucking ugly just went right over it and said no fuck that I don't want to do that I don't want to do that I don't want to do in fact I don't want to deal in your true in truth I don't I don't want to be anything like that right there that was that was cool before not cool now cuz I gave $4 for a trash for nothing it's trash waste of time not happy with it so yeah it's pathetic I'll never do it again emailed you guys never got a response yeah I'm not sure I'm not too excited about any of this so it's a problem that was waste of time this whole experience the upgraded it wasn't edited it was not 20 times more I mean fuck why am I to pay $9 for fucking a week big deal big deal Gemini not worth it at all I do not like that I didn't even get a responsive email oh well

Why i cant edit my own messages? Is it a bug?

I’m trying to search HuggingFace docs to understand inference credits better - i’m a pro member and ran out of inference credits the first time i tried it out. I wanted to see what you all wrote about inference and credits and whatnot. So I used the search field in the docs to search for “inference” as a starting point.

That kicked me over to Omni to do some ai-assisted search, i guess. except that since i’m out of credits the chat fails until i buy more credits.

What the actual frack? You’re using an AI assistant to help with searching topics but you expect me to pay for that inference cost out of my credits? That’s frelling ridiculous and beyond the pale that i can’t even search the docs without buying credits.

I certainly hope this is some oversight or early bug and not policy.

I agree with this, I hope hf rethinks it.

Just shut it down at this point. Was a good run.

Just shut it down at this point. Was a good run.

Just shut it down at this point. Was a good run.

Did anyone else pay for their £9 Pro subscription this month and not get their free £2 uses?

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